Vice City Multiplayer

VC:MP => General Discussion => Topic started by: gta5 on March 30, 2010, 02:13:53 AM

Title: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: gta5 on March 30, 2010, 02:13:53 AM
This was just something I noticed a few days ago, and it will cause VC:MP to lose many players. When I google vice city multiplayer, the second link that comes up is a link to it on download.com . Many people download from that website because it is a trusted source run by cnet. The problem is this: the version avaliable to download on there is 0.3x. It says on there Date Added: April 2007. Not only that but there were over 800 downloads last week. Here's the full statistics:

#  Price:  Free
# Operating system: Windows 98/Me/2000/XP
# Date added: April 10, 2007
# Total Downloads: 100,909
# Downloads last week: 844
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Power-Inside on March 30, 2010, 05:05:20 AM
I thought download.com updates their softwares... well at least thats why they are releasing their TechTracker Software
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Boss on March 30, 2010, 09:06:26 AM
Why download from some third-party sources when there's an official site? :/
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Sephiroth on March 30, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: Boss on March 30, 2010, 09:06:26 AM
Why download from some third-party sources when there's an official site? :/

dunno but if you're gonna have mirrors, at least keep them all updated.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: [AoD]NC on March 30, 2010, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: Boss on March 30, 2010, 09:06:26 AM
Why download from some third-party sources when there's an official site? :/
OMG Boss, gta5 said, that download.net is a trusted website so why not download it? Maybe your post should mean, that we CAN NOT publish VCMP on our privates FTP, because there is vcmp.com and go there to get it!

I have seen outdates versions of VCMP too, but if someone really wants to play this game, he will, i think, start searching VCMP in google or somewhere :p.

But anyway VCMP is not only loosing players because the outdated version, but we have already talked about it on another topics.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Boss on March 30, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on March 30, 2010, 01:29:15 PM
OMG Boss, gta5 said, that download.net is a trusted website so why not download it?
How come a "trusted" website has an outdated version? It could as well be a virus.

Quote from: [AoD]NC on March 30, 2010, 01:29:15 PM
Maybe your post should mean, that we CAN NOT publish VCMP on our privates FTP, because there is vcmp.com and go there to get it!
*Should not. Client's size is 1.5 Mb, anything but a 56k modem will download it from anywhere but Antarctica within a couple of minutes.


P.S. SA-MP's version is 0.2X-u1 there. *facepalm*
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Klaus_Meine on March 30, 2010, 05:40:25 PM
I have myself witnessed many players trying to play with an outdated version.
Seems to be very common.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: JayL on March 30, 2010, 05:57:10 PM
Put the VC-MP website there maybe? ::)
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: [AoD]NC on March 30, 2010, 06:52:53 PM
Quote from: Boss on March 30, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on March 30, 2010, 01:29:15 PM
Maybe your post should mean, that we CAN NOT publish VCMP on our privates FTP, because there is vcmp.com and go there to get it!
*Should not. Client's size is 1.5 Mb, anything but a 56k modem will download it from anywhere but Antarctica within a couple of minutes.

Im not talking about downloading. Yes you are right, even with a modem it would take max 10 minutes to download it from a US server. But do you want to download VCMP from a website that is in english [and e.g. you cant english] or from a german, french or chinese because you know this lang?

Btw losing players: maybe because VCMP doesnt have many VC features. Just to compare: http://www.gtamodding.com/index.php?title=List_of_opcodes
Try to find out how many of them are not in VCMP. The first thing: shaking the camera.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: j-king on March 30, 2010, 07:05:35 PM
boss you troll. Anyways yeah dev's update pl0x. I kinda came across that too at first
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: ULK.HeAD on March 30, 2010, 07:59:24 PM
Quote from: j-king on March 30, 2010, 07:05:35 PM
boss you troll.

seriously, dude. you're letting your argumentative tendencies go a little too far here, are you really going to argue or whatever over the fact that download.com is or is not a popular, trusted site for random noobs looking to download something, using google as their search reference?

he is raising a real issue here, and his worries are sound. there's no need to pick it apart and single out a meaningless detail. the fact is 800+ people downloaded the old version in a week, and while some of them may have intentionally made that choice, any percentage of that group looking for the up-to-date version noobish enough to get it from cnet first, probably denied VCMP it's attainable playercount.

/me = trolled
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Aaron on March 30, 2010, 08:34:56 PM
All mirrors should be kept updated, 844 in a week woah it would be fun if they downloaded the newest version, every server full  :o

Quote from: [AoDNC link=topic=1930.msg14612#msg14612
Try to find out how many of them are not in VCMP. The first thing: shaking the camera.
grenades/molitovs/explosions shake the camera?
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: gta5 on March 31, 2010, 03:13:11 AM
When I first started vcmp it took me weeks to find out that I was using 0.3x when 0.3z R1 was what I needed.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Exoskeletor on March 31, 2010, 04:07:17 AM
when the next version is coming guys?
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Power-Inside on March 31, 2010, 05:30:52 AM
hmm why not put auto update feature in the next release....
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Exoskeletor on March 31, 2010, 11:56:40 AM
this project has start 2006?
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: venkatreading on March 31, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
i downloaded both MTA and VCMP from download.com as well , until i discovered this forum
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: gta5 on April 07, 2010, 01:39:48 AM
Even more this time  :o :

#  Price:  Free
# Operating system: Windows 98/Me/2000/XP
# Date added: April 10, 2007
# Total Downloads: 101,881
# Downloads last week: 852
# Product Ranking: #4 in Other Shooter Games
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Aaron on April 07, 2010, 02:43:56 AM
I bet people download it there expecting it to be the full game :P
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Javi on April 07, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
^Lol

Is there any way to contact the site owner or smth to update the client these people are downloading?
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Ghostface_Killah on April 07, 2010, 05:38:12 PM
852?!? ***Offensive content removed by maxorator (2nd try). If you add it again I'm going to have to temporarily ban you from posting.***

that's 85 times more than people playing VCMP right now

srsly.. what the fuck
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: [AoD]NC on April 07, 2010, 06:02:59 PM
852 but maybe when google botz and others were searching this website, they were counted too?
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: thijn on April 07, 2010, 08:08:14 PM
Its downloads, not page views.
So yes, we are losing a lot of people trough this outdated thing...
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: gta5 on April 08, 2010, 05:40:15 AM
There are a lot of links on the VCMP website. It would be confusing to any nab. I suggest you guys add a youtube video to the home page giving installation instructions with the right link to use for the client. Also put the link of the client in the video description.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Ghostface_Killah on April 08, 2010, 10:05:14 AM
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Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Jc18 on April 08, 2010, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: Power-Inside on March 31, 2010, 05:30:52 AM
hmm why not put auto update feature in the next release....

^^

LOL tical ban ban XD
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Devian on April 08, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: Jc18 on April 08, 2010, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: Power-Inside on March 31, 2010, 05:30:52 AM
hmm why not put auto update feature in the next release....

Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: gta5 on April 09, 2010, 06:00:06 AM
Are any of the developers able to update it on download.com? :/
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Ghostface_Killah on April 10, 2010, 08:50:02 PM
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Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Boss on April 10, 2010, 08:54:19 PM
That bluff failed much.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: maxorator on April 11, 2010, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: Boss on April 10, 2010, 08:54:19 PM
That bluff failed much.
I forgot to check one checkbox when banning...
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: [AoD]NC on April 11, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: thijn on April 07, 2010, 08:08:14 PM
Its downloads, not page views.
So yes, we are losing a lot of people trough this outdated thing...

But botz are searching the whole page. The download link isnt "site/vcmp.zip" only "site/file.php?asdasd" and stupid botz enter them. After entering the count of "downloads" is increased.
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: thijn on April 11, 2010, 08:41:56 PM
nah google is that smart, it doesn't follow that link.
And download.com is also that smart that it doesn't increase the download count every time Google passes that page.

So, Yes these are downloads...
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: gta5 on April 23, 2010, 12:45:17 AM
http://download.cnet.com/Vice-City-Multiplayer-VC-MP/3000-7440_4-10623145.html

^^ Thanks to whoever updated the link. It now displays the R2 version :D
Title: Re: VC:MP losing easy players
Post by: Greg on April 23, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
You're welcome  ;) ;D 8)