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VC:MP => General Discussion => Topic started by: [AoD]NC on February 20, 2011, 08:51:48 PM

Poll
Question: Which OS are you using/have used for hosting a VCMP server?
Option 1: Windows votes: 14
Option 2: Linux votes: 14
Option 3: I host games only over LAN/Hamachi/for short time/etc. votes: 2
Option 4: Haven't hosted servers yet votes: 0
Title: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: [AoD]NC on February 20, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
AN IMPORTANT POLL FOR THE FUTURE OF VCMP!
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The question is simple. There are so many servers on the "Internet" tab, many more are no longer online, but the question is, which Operating System was used to host them?

This poll is for everyone who hosted or bought a server! If you don't know which OS was used for hosting your server, please ask the server admin. EVERY VOTE is important!

Windows the server was 24/7 online and hosted on a Windows machine
Linux 24/7 online on a Linux system
I host games only over LAN/Hamachi/for short time/etc. if you hosted servers, but not 24/7, only for a short time, select this
Haven't hosted servers yet no experience with hosting

Please vote right now or ask the server hoster about the OS. The poll won't expire and you can change your vote.

Cheers,
Awesome NC

/me votes Linux because he has 3-4 times a server and every was hosted on a Linux

Feel free to comment.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Boss on February 20, 2011, 09:28:57 PM
Windows obviously.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: aXXo on February 21, 2011, 07:17:27 AM
I really wanna know which server does not have memory leak issue.

Windows with mIRC
Windows with pawn
Windows with Squirrel
Linux with mIRC
Linux with pawn
Linux with Squirrel

Windows with PAWN does have memory leak issue, im not sure about others...
Im curious to know if anyone runs a server with no mem leak (XE?), what are they using??

PS: I cant compare windows from linux due to limited knowledge....so i wont vote.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Boss on February 21, 2011, 09:24:23 AM
Neither OS nor supported scripting language matter - they all use the same version of raкnet, meaning they all have the memory leak.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: BIG[H] on February 21, 2011, 09:37:11 AM
Linux "Ubuntu"  ;D linux are faster and Take less memory
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Aaron on February 21, 2011, 11:17:17 AM
Windows, never used linux
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: BIG[H] on February 21, 2011, 01:38:46 PM
Try it its much Better to Host Servers :- :P
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Greg on February 21, 2011, 01:56:20 PM
My service is based on Windows Server 2008 R2.

Regards,
Greg
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: VRocker on February 21, 2011, 02:14:57 PM
All the servers i host are on Linux. Some are on Debian, some are on Gentoo.

As for the memory leak, i think it affects all builds on linux, unsure about windows.
Currently XE and a few other servers don't suffer from the memory leak on my Gentoo server, but i am unsure why and the same binaries have a memory leak on the Debian system. The only problem with that server is it wont run Pawn based servers, so its stuck on the old mirc ones and squirrel.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: BIG[H] on February 22, 2011, 02:42:09 AM
QuoteAll the servers i host are on Linux. Some are on Debian, some are on Gentoo.

As for the memory leak, i think it affects all builds on linux, unsure about windows.
Currently XE and a few other servers don't suffer from the memory leak on my Gentoo server, but i am unsure why and the same binaries have a memory leak on the Debian system. The only problem with that server is it wont run Pawn based servers, so its stuck on the old mirc ones and squirrel.
Yeah That's what i wana say Linux is Best to Host servers  8) :P
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Charleyutton on February 22, 2011, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on February 20, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
AN IMPORTANT POLL FOR THE FUTURE OF VCMP!

Why exactly is it so important? Are the devs thinking of dropping either one of the servers?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: thijn on February 22, 2011, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Charleyutton on February 22, 2011, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on February 20, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
AN IMPORTANT POLL FOR THE FUTURE OF VCMP!

Why exactly is it so important? Are the devs thinking of dropping either one of the servers?
Lol ofc not, He's just trying to get attention...
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: [AoD]NC on February 23, 2011, 01:35:53 AM
Well it is important, if not, why would I do that? But HOW will it be important, we will see in the next days.

As I see it's almost 50:50 windows vs linux. Thought there are more linux servers anyway :O.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Juppi on February 23, 2011, 02:26:37 AM
Linux of course.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Charleyutton on February 23, 2011, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on February 23, 2011, 01:35:53 AM
But HOW will it be important, we will see in the next days.

If you say so, Mr Mysterious.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Force on February 24, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
No brainer, linux, duh.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: gta5 on February 24, 2011, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: BIG[H] on February 21, 2011, 09:37:11 AM
Linux "Ubuntu"  ;D linux are faster and Take less memory

^^ but I run the windows version via wine.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: BIG[H] on February 25, 2011, 08:42:58 AM
Wine HQ would slow server Use original Linux Server R2
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: sseebbyy on February 27, 2011, 05:47:16 PM
Sorry...Windows ....
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: heekz.shadow on March 05, 2011, 06:42:26 AM
I am hosting it into windows.I am monitorizing the losses and the bad things on my IP Monitorizing batch file (made by me for the VC-MP server). So everytime I see a loss...I'm just looking over server log and trying to identify and fix the problem. Sometimes it works :D
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: [AoD]NC on March 05, 2011, 06:13:21 PM
Does the VCMP server works with Wine? I heard that there are some troubles, especially with hosting-stuff. Anyway how many memory does it use on Wine?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: GTA-Roloboy on March 11, 2011, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: Juppi on February 23, 2011, 02:26:37 AM
Linux of course.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Charleyutton on March 20, 2011, 10:29:46 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on February 23, 2011, 01:35:53 AM
Well it is important, if not, why would I do that? But HOW will it be important, we will see in the next days.
/me is still waiting.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Skirmant on March 20, 2011, 10:49:46 PM
Linux is obviously a much more officiant choice (unless you're using mIRC). It's also more popular among 24/7 servers. The only reason the same amount of people vote for Windows is because almost every amateur server is hosted on windows by newbie server devs that can't afford a host yet.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: gta5 on March 20, 2011, 10:56:50 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on March 05, 2011, 06:13:21 PM
Does the VCMP server works with Wine? I heard that there are some troubles, especially with hosting-stuff. Anyway how many memory does it use on Wine?

It runs fine with wine. I actually like it better because it doesn't use terminal. Stability seems fine. Memory usage seems to be quite low. On my vps I'm running VNC, LXDE (lightweight desktop), two irc vcmp servers with wine, the windows gamecreate client with wine (http://gamecreate.com/downloads.php) - The linux version would run but wouldnt connect to the master server properly, apache and a few other things. This is my current memory usage:

234.48 MB of 768 MB used / 533.52 MB free
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: BIG[H] on March 21, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
JUST LINUX
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: [AoD]NC on March 21, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: gta5 on March 20, 2011, 10:56:50 PM
234.48 MB of 768 MB used / 533.52 MB free

Only for those 2 servers? If only that's quite much I think.

Quote from: Charleyutton on March 20, 2011, 10:29:46 PM
/me is still waiting.

Well. :P

We have been prepared for some "not nice" things, but fortunately, everything went well. No, the 0.4 version will still be included with linux and windows server, but max is now just playing with them, so no one knows how they will work, maybe they will destroy your PC!

Hah kidding :P. But there are some big changes in the server's. I don't know if I am able to say more, so I better shut up know :).

---

And how does the R2 servers work on 64 bits computers?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: gta5 on March 21, 2011, 10:44:18 PM
QuoteOnly for those 2 servers? If only that's quite much I think.

nope that's for everything I have running
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: yazeen on March 22, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
Win is perfect

Quote from: BIG[H] on March 21, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
JUST LINUX

Linux SUX
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Devian on March 22, 2011, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: yazeen on March 22, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
Win is perfect

Quote from: BIG[H] on March 21, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
JUST LINUX

Linux SUX

lol linux sux?
tell us why do you think it.

you probably never used linux in your life,or never read something about.
Linux is awesome!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: BIG[H] on March 22, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
Quotelol linux sux?
tell us why do you think it.

you probably never used linux in your life,or never read something about.
Linux is awesome!

yes Man you didn't even know about linux and never tried it :D i suggest Ubuntu a basic linux that releases a free CD for PC send request to them they will send free CD and install it:
LINUX IS BEST
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Aldo on March 22, 2011, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: BIG[H] on March 22, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
Quotelol linux sux?
tell us why do you think it.

you probably never used linux in your life,or never read something about.
Linux is awesome!

yes Man you didn't even know about linux and never tried it :D i suggest Ubuntu a basic linux that releases a free CD for PC send request to them they will send free CD and install it:
LINUX IS BEST

How do you know that? You can't even afford professional server hosting
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: sseebbyy on March 22, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
Windows With Pawn  :D

Never used Linux !



Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: yazeen on March 23, 2011, 07:41:45 AM
Well Windows wins it has More Votes
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Aldo on March 23, 2011, 12:57:45 PM
I bet half the windows host are home hosted
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: [AoD]NC on March 23, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: Aldo on March 23, 2011, 12:57:45 PM
I bet half the windows host are home hosted

"I host games only over LAN/Hamachi/for short time/etc"

:<.

Repeat: someone tried to run server on 64 bits?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: VRocker on March 29, 2011, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: [AoD]NC on March 23, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Repeat: someone tried to run server on 64 bits?

When i've ran Windows servers at home for testing, it has always been on 64bit. My home server currently runs Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 and my main PC runs Windows 7 Home x64.
There are no problems running 32bit applications on a 64bit windows powered machine since it has a 32bit emulation layer which works really well.

Linux on the other hand... you need to install something to run 32bit binaries on a 64bit linux operating system. Some may already have this installed, like Ubuntu. Personally i havn't tried it on a 64bit linux system.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: [AoD]NC on March 29, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
Thank you very much VR :* !

If someone has something else to add, feel free to do it :)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: Aldo on March 30, 2011, 04:40:42 PM
You can't say Windows is better then Linux or Linux is better then Windows if you haven't used both

I used both and both for web hosting and server hosting

My opinion
-Linux is better for web hosting
-Linux and Windows are about the same for server hosting, but I like windows better for this 
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: gta5 on April 02, 2011, 02:11:22 AM
I've used both, and imo Linux is better for both web-hosting and server hosting.

QuoteRepeat: someone tried to run server on 64 bits?

I use 32 bit on Linux
Title: Re: IMPORTANT: Which OS for server hosting?
Post by: yazeen on April 07, 2011, 09:08:04 AM
Quote from: gta5 on April 02, 2011, 02:11:22 AM
I've used both, and imo Linux is better for both web-hosting and server hosting.

QuoteRepeat: someone tried to run server on 64 bits?

I use 32 bit on Linux

You Host server if yes Tell me!!  8)