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Title: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: ULK.HeAD on October 16, 2008, 11:28:46 pm
messaged me on IRC about being banned from XE. I play with the guy all the time and as far as I know he doesn't deserve a ban. anyone know why?

edit:
it seems [FKT]FanHot, another regular player is also banned under subnet ban 200.88.x.x
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: cola on October 17, 2008, 12:11:03 pm
messaged me on IRC about being banned from XE. I play with the guy all the time and as far as I know he doesn't deserve a ban. anyone know why?

edit:
it seems [FKT]FanHot, another regular player is also banned under subnet ban 200.88.x.x
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<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: !subnetban 5 bye
<&Botz> Subnet Banning - Name: [FKT]FanHot, ID: 5, By: [TLK]Chucky, Reason: bye
hmm seems that chucky banned him, so i read the whole stuff since chucky joined the game till the ban.

Btw...Some of misdooings of chucky...
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<&Botz> *** [TLK]Chucky joined the server.
<&Botz> *[ECI]*Marcinex: gdzie ty
<&Botz> *** sash joined the server.
<&Botz> *** irving joined the server.
<&Botz> *** jose joined the server.
<&Botz> *** [TLK]Chucky killed [FKT]FanHot. (Stubby)
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg cgucky
<&Botz> militar: montate
<&Botz> *** militar left the server. (Timeout)
<&Botz> *** *[ECI]*Marcinex left the server. (Timeout)
<&Botz> *** [TLK]Chucky killed [FKT]FanHot. (Stubby)
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: telekill
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: lol

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

<&Botz> *** [FKT]FanHot killed [TLK]Chucky. (Stubby)
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: ffs
<&Botz> ryba: HA
<&Botz> Xmen: k onda
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: i'm bugged
<&Botz> militar: haa
<&Botz> *[ECI]*Marcinex: cp
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: not
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: not
<&Botz> *[ECI]*Marcinex: co
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: stfu
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: noob
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: dont kill me when i'm bugged
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: very noob
<&Botz> *** ryba killed Ciber. (M4)
<&Botz> *** militar left the server. (Timeout)
<&Botz> *** sash left the server. (Timeout)
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: you not bugged lol
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: shut up

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<&Botz> *** [FKT]FanHot killed [TLK]Chucky. (MP5)
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: ffs
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg you not bugged
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: healer noob
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: fuk off
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: you used heal in 5 times lolz

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and finally...the ban...

<&Botz> *** [TLK]Chucky killed [FKT]FanHot. (Spaz)
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: noob
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg trainer activate
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg trainer
<&Botz> *** Xmen joined the server.
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: stfu
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: learn to fight
<&Botz> *** Lucia_redisbest joined the server.
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: you using trainer in serius stop plase
<&Botz> andrey: ce trener?
<&Botz> Cristian: hijo de puta donde estas_?
<&Botz> the_best_[Br]: algum br ?
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: say that again and its a ban
<&Botz> *** Katya_girl left the server. (Timeout)
<&Botz> irving: que te pasa imbecil somos los mismos
<&Botz> *** Xmen died. (Unknown)
<&Botz> Lucia_redisbest: jeje
<&Botz> irving: lucia no pelees con los militares
<&Botz> *** Cristian left the server. (Timeout)
<&Botz> *** [TLK]Chucky killed [FKT]FanHot. (Spaz)
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: lol
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg stop using trainer
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: i lest the servetr
<&Botz> [FKT]FanHot: omg
<&Botz> [TLK]Chucky: !subnetban 5 bye
<&Botz> Subnet Banning - Name: [FKT]FanHot, ID: 5, By: [TLK]Chucky, Reason: bye

in my opinion, chucky was just pissed off getting killed. Even if a nubkill, he swore which is against the rule (but ofc we all swear)
He banned him just because he said omg ur using trainer plz turn it off. Thats not a good reason to ban mhm? Way before this, fanhot asked to not fight him, finding out that chucky was good at fighting, seeing his ratio. But chucky kept killing him, which is ok. Then i think fanhot got angry and kept killing him, so chucky got annoyed and finally when fanhot said trainer noob, he exploded and banned him. Personally, thats not a good reaason to ban i think. Plus, Chucky, as an admin, abused ppl by saying noob, fuk, im bugged (when he was not, according to fanhot, maybe not true, but could be) shut up. I don't really think this is a good show of an admin. I think admins should be a bit more kind maybe, and a bit more patient than other players. This is almost like banning someone because he hated him. But of course, this is all my opinion, so ye criticize me all you want ._.
Plus, why a subnet ban at once lmao. Should be ipban, and subnet ban should be the Last choice that you make mhm?
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: StriKe on October 17, 2008, 03:12:48 pm
You said right cola abt chcuky..thanx
and abt sosa,he is not a cheater...he is a good player,hope he is unbanned  ;)
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: evil_night13 on October 17, 2008, 03:16:10 pm
^^ yeah cola u was rite, he gets pissed off wen he is killed by someone!

Chucky is always like that, he is very short tempered ,easily gets pissed off, if he gets killed, he never says nice, all he says !ban <nick> reason: bye

i have heard him saying , that admins r his friend, so he thinks he can abuse his powers!

i hope Tommis would have checked twice abt chucky b4 making him admin!

one of the worst admin, eg: Chucky!
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Pluisje on October 17, 2008, 04:59:11 pm
hello

actually breaking a rule iznt good when youre a user. but when youre a admin U have also must be 1 with all the rules on the server. but if you keep breaking it.. it would be not good. and also banning with a weird reason by getting owned.. tsk tsk tsk.. i rly cant say everything about it srry. and i ain know what tommis is gonna say about this rly. hes not gonna get happy when he sees this.. if ure a thrusted person u also must stay like that.. dont break any rule. or other kinds of stuffs. you know when ure breaking a rule.. youll be kicked.. or posible banned..
u know all the rules on LW.XE.UMS. and all off the other thrusted servers.. that breaking the rule iznt a good choise..

Pluisje


update:
chuck if you want to earn respect you have to respect the players around to.. if you dont.. no1 will respect you also the other admins.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Chucky on October 17, 2008, 05:45:00 pm
Hey,

As you can see the originally name that was banned is [FKT]FanHot, i banned this guy since he started talking foolishness things again about me hacking etc, he always used to say that when me or Mattz kill him you know, and i banned him b4 for spwankilling and glitching, and Mattz banned him b4 3 times for the same reason 1st time: for foolishness things, 2nd time: evading, 3rd time: he was subnetbanned because he keep evading, but some how he got unbanned after some days, but me and Mattz didn't mind to re-ban him since it looks like he stopped talking foolishness things, spwankilling and glitching, but it looks like he started talking foolishness things again, and i subnetbanned him this time to prevent evasion since he used to evading, but since [DS]Mr.Sosa had the same subnet he got banned to and i didn't know that he had the same subnet...

Subnet is unbanned now

Case closed

Cya,
Chucky
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: cola on October 17, 2008, 06:05:41 pm
well still the log i saw ( i didnt paste the whole thing), shows fanhot saying that ur using traine for like only once or twice, and the bug thing could be true ;) you could have waited much longer but thats my opinion ._.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: evil_night13 on October 17, 2008, 07:34:57 pm
being an admin u cant subnet ban all of a sudden, u have to think the consequences u r going to face after that, i.e so many players from the same subnet are affected, like Sosa, so think twice b4 u do anything, btw talking foolish things is not an offense or breaking any rule!
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Sandoval on October 18, 2008, 12:58:37 am
Case Re-Opened

Take a look..

This is Mr.Sosa's/TheXOnly's IP And ISP
Along with the last IP/ISP to log onto [FKT]Fanhot's account:
As you can see the country is "DO" not sure what they stands for.

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4079/vcmp029ao8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Now, I know it hasn't been a WAY LONG time since Fanhot used [FKT]. So I !getip'd Fanhot
As you can see here, the country is "BR" Aka BRAZIL.


Picture removed on request.


I think we have someone impersanating here.
Someone from Mr.Sosa's/TheXOnly's IP went onto FanHot's account and got him banned.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: ULK.HeAD on October 18, 2008, 04:00:14 am
I wouldn't doubt it. I witnessed some players logging into other's accounts to mess up their stats the other day.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: cola on October 18, 2008, 10:26:38 am
i doubt it. If they wantd to ban fanhot, then they could just have hacked, or do anything that is against the rules. But fanhot was himself, playing normal. He only got banned because he said dont use trailer twice to chucky
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Mattz on October 18, 2008, 03:53:57 pm
[FKT]Fanhot is from the Dominican Republic and so is [DS]Mr.Sosa. It can't possibly be a account hack. When i tried to unban the subnet but it did not work, don't know why.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Sandoval on October 18, 2008, 05:14:38 pm
i doubt it. If they wantd to ban fanhot, then they could just have hacked, or do anything that is against the rules. But fanhot was himself, playing normal. He only got banned because he said dont use trailer twice to chucky

Well, that still doesn't explain why their IP's are so alike, and their ISP's.

Anyways, Fanhot only deserved a 24 hour ban, not a permenant ban.

EDIT: @Mattz: They were already unbanned.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Windlord on October 20, 2008, 11:16:48 am
I really don't like how bans are being treated here.
There should be a separate admins board.

Chucky has been misunderstood.
If I was Chucky I would've banned him earlier on.
A ban evader is not welcome in any server whatsoever.

/me really thinks that we need a proper board where we can discuss stuff without random people interfering and accusing the admin.

@ Sandoval: You never know, Fanhot may be a proxy user. Oh and don't post IPs here on such an open forum :/. That's like inviting hackers to hack into the players' computers.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: evil_night13 on October 20, 2008, 11:22:47 am
^^ totally agree to windy,

XE needs a separate board, and admin section can be password protected, so admin can have some privacy and sort the issues within themselves!
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Chucky on October 20, 2008, 08:10:22 pm
I really don't like how bans are being treated here.
There should be a separate admins board.

Chucky has been misunderstood.
If I was Chucky I would've banned him earlier on.
A ban evader is not welcome in any server whatsoever.

Yeah, but the problem is if his subnet keep banned other innocent player(s) will be banned to if they have the same subnet as him like [DS].Mr.Sosa does, and if you ipban him he would evade anyways like he did b4, and if you keep ipban him he might come with other name later on and then it would be kinda harder to identified him since we don't have subalias and alias commands, so i think subalias and alias commands for admins would be helpful, example: /c subalias <name/id>   /c alias <name/id>
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Pluisje on October 20, 2008, 10:44:02 pm
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so i think subalias and alias commands for admins would be helpful, example: /c subalias <name/id>   /c alias <name/id>

i dunno if its gonna be good. i think this should be beter..
like the admins on the channel. that they can see the ips subnets. or like aliases from ppl that joins the server and like yea. automatic showing up the ips.subnets.(subaliases alaises.). i dunno what tommis is gonna say about this idea?


Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Chucky on October 20, 2008, 11:44:54 pm
Hmm maybe, i think the admins commands should also work in mIRC,
and when a player report an other player for cheating or for other reason
the admins in mIRC should also get the report because sometimes
the admins aren't in game but they are well in mIRC...
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Abdula on February 05, 2009, 11:01:28 pm
hey guys chucky ban guys when he angry i dont like him when he do that like a child admin he banne people they not cheat when hes anngry just bad looser :/ (sry chucky but that the truth)
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Chucky on February 09, 2009, 05:20:08 am
hey guys chucky ban guys when he angry i dont like him when he do that like a child admin he banne people they not cheat when hes anngry just bad looser :/ (sry chucky but that the truth)

Who the fuck care whatever you say, everyone know that your a liar prick and that you was a cheater in the past.

I'm tired of your foolishness things.
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: Squida on February 09, 2009, 11:53:53 am
can't u just lock this ffs
Title: Re: [DS]Mr.Sosa
Post by: BoySticK on February 10, 2009, 12:55:37 am
OMG... cracker till in vcmp lol